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Re: Liteon secrets? I'll share something with you
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2009, 11:26:36 PM »
so what you're saying is MISO needs to be pulled up during bootup to get status to 0x72 then pulled down for read? I'm probably totally off the mark here though, from the decap it looks like a few wires run to the top left diagonal pin that doesn't come out of the controller, I tried grinding it down and playing with it, it sparked a bit so I left it at that hehe. Guess i'll just wait for further hints/instructions.
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« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2009, 03:35:04 AM »
Why wouldn't an inline spst (mom) do the job one side on the pin the other on the pcb (having lifted the pin)



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« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2009, 09:45:28 AM »
Sorry to push but I've told ppl today was the day...  :)
thats not modfreakz problem, it will be done when its ready, he dont care what you promised to your people, also what you want? start modding 93 consoles with ixtreme 1.6 spoofed?  if you dont know that will send their just purchased units to a direct ban, so lets wait.
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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2009, 10:31:48 AM »
Sorry to push but I've told ppl today was the day...  :)

Stop bothering people that actually do something for the scene with stupid request !

There are no excuses for this whining behavior .

Wait in silence and be thankful !

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« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2009, 10:50:22 AM »
Why wouldn't an inline spst (mom) do the job one side on the pin the other on the pcb (having lifted the pin)



Sorry to push but I've told ppl today was the day...  :)

I'm more interested in the work/method of the dump than anything, watching this thread with anticipation.

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« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2009, 05:52:57 PM »

Something cropped up today!

But here is the Proof of Concept, other stuff will released later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HweQbgCsk60


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« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2009, 06:05:45 PM »
Sorry to push but I've told ppl today was the day...  :)

Stop bothering people that actually do something for the scene with stupid request !

There are no excuses for this whining behavior .

Wait in silence and be thankful !

Sorry, clearly my post was miss-interpreted, I was just trying to get an opinion on my take as I'm keen to have a go at one of the new ones and as it happens I don't have long before I have to send the box back. I was thinking something along the lines of an SPDT- 5v on one throw, a resistor to pull low on the other. As I gather it appears I'll still have to wait to be showen the rest regarding ATA commands etc. anyway (but I would like to understand as much as possible) forgive me If I'm hard to follow as digital aint really my thing (I'm an RF/comms tech). I see the need to be cryptic but I've found the above a little confusing. I don't mean to add spam to the thread or anything ... 'If there is something I can do for the scene eg beta testing pl let me know but I guess you have that covered.Once again sorry...
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« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2009, 06:23:22 PM »
Today I made some progress too. I was able to dump the O-FW of a 74850. So here is how it works (although I just tried it with one drive til now):

-Lift pin 101 and 122
-solder a cable to pin 100, pin 101 and one to 3,3V
-use a 2-way switch which either connects 101 to 3,3V or to 100
-put the switch into the position so that it connects 100 to 101
-power drive
-start Dosflash, it will recognise the SPI with Status x72
-if you read it out now, it will just give you a .bin full of FFFFFFFF, but thats OK, this is how we tricked the Flash Controller to think the SPI is empty
-put the switch in the other position (so that 101 is connected to 3,3V)
-now read the flash

---> Voila, you got your dump!

Maybe someone else is going to give it a try, would be nice to get some feedback. For today my tests are finished, its pretty late....

Oh yes, and of course: no warranty at all, I even fried one drive myself a few days ago, when I was performing some tests. I suppose working on it a 4:30 in the morning obviously wasn´t the best idea...
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« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2009, 06:29:50 PM »
I figured thats where this was going :) cool time to go grab a switch.

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« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2009, 06:40:30 PM »
O lord, if this is the way we need to dump drives from now on...I can see forums FLOODED with posts saying "I FUXORZED MY LIFTING OF PINS PLOX HELP ME KTHKXBAI"
yeah lowering the default reading speed from 12x to let's say 5x, would really let GTA4 (or any of your games) benefit from way less popups and loading times.

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« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2009, 06:47:38 PM »
n00bpwner360: Remember teh good old ms28 Daye where ist was really easy to solder. But this is about 3 levels up, but it won't stop kidz to try this i think. Hopefully the Epoxy removal stop them from trying this...

I have to try this now...

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« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2009, 06:48:05 PM »
O lord, if this is the way we need to dump drives from now on...I can see forums FLOODED with posts saying "I FUXORZED MY LIFTING OF PINS PLOX HELP ME KTHKXBAI"


they sure will lol... but i'm sure someone will find alt points for those pins. maybe the other side of the board?

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« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2009, 06:48:51 PM »
Epoxy on MT1319L is seriously easy to remove.

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« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2009, 06:49:57 PM »
I would NEVER recommend someone to do this if he doesn´t know exactly what he´s doing!!! I just wanted to let you know about it in this early stage because all what happened in the scene in the last month really pisses me off...

For now, even if you get the dump, I see no way to get the key out of it, cause it is still encrypted, but there has to be a way to deal with that too. But first we need more O-FW dumps. So if someone else dumped his drive the same way, send me your dump!

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« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2009, 06:55:16 PM »
Epoxy on MT1319L is seriously easy to remove.
On what temperature are you working? I'm always a little bit scared burning something^^

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« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2009, 06:55:27 PM »

Something cropped up today!

But here is the Proof of Concept, other stuff will released later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HweQbgCsk60



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« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2009, 06:56:06 PM »
I would NEVER recommend someone to do this if he doesn´t know exactly what he´s doing!!! I just wanted to let you know about it in this early stage because all what happened in the scene in the last month really pisses me off...

For now, even if you get the dump, I see no way to get the key out of it, cause it is still encrypted, but there has to be a way to deal with that too. But first we need more O-FW dumps. So if someone else dumped his drive the same way, send me your dump!

Can you flash the dump back to the drive and have it still work without knowing how to decrypt it?

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« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2009, 06:57:08 PM »
I see people can not wait few days and poking in the dark.
Really a shame.

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« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2009, 06:57:51 PM »
Epoxy on MT1319L is seriously easy to remove.
On what temperature are you working? I'm always a little bit scared burning something^^

I used ~350 degrees but it came off easier than anything Id dream of

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« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2009, 06:58:39 PM »
TMF, I sent you an email to the one I used before - I anticpate your reply :)