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« on: August 23, 2006, 05:01:22 PM » |
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« Last Edit: August 23, 2006, 05:05:57 PM by Team MODFREAKz »
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probutus
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2006, 05:25:42 PM » |
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AWESOME!! GREAT JOB! The solder pads look like brand new. OT: It is possible for you to change southbridge and flash between mobos? This could help us find out where M$ has hidden its secret keys  |
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MODFREAKz
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2006, 05:29:04 PM » |
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G0t m4xx 21
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2006, 10:14:25 PM » |
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Great job
The next step would be to swap chips with another 360 to see which ones are married (we already know the ANA chip isn't), most interestingly would be the flash and SB like probutus said.
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ddd.games
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2006, 11:47:18 PM » |
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which should the temperature that use at the station of rework to take the cpu and for gpu?
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TheSpecialist
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2006, 06:44:08 AM » |
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LOL, unbelievable TMF, how you do that stuff without killing it  Much respect. I assume you're going to do some interesting experiments with exchanging chips between mobo's ? Good luck and be careful, eh  BTW, are there sockets available for some of these chips ? Because in the name of science, it would be much easier to do certain experiments if you'd solder a socket instead of the chip itself. But I assume that since most chips aren't 'standard', there won't be any usable sockets available, right ? Or are some chips at the 'pin level' of the chip the same as other 'standard' chips ? BTW2, god I love this stuff Wish I could solder like you, I'd be exchanging chips too now, hehe |
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TheSpecialist
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2006, 07:15:07 AM » |
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Does the pinout of the CPU match some powerPC pinout ? Because it would be great if you could use that socket. *EDIT* I believe only the Mac mini comes with CPU socket and that 'normal' macs dont use a socket ? And even if they would, I assume that the pin layout is not matching any other CPU out there ? So finding a matching socket for the CPU and GPU might be hard, but maybe the other chips (NAND, southbridge, ANA) are easier ?
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2006, 03:07:12 PM » |
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give us some tips how to do that it's amaizing, what tools u use? smd rework station? or someting else? |
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2006, 04:02:30 PM » |
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There are sockets available for the Nand, CPU, GPU and I would guess there are ones for the Southbridge & ANA as well. I will see if I can dig up the link for you.
I would suggest socketing the CPU and NAND, but since you've removed the others, do them as well.
Speedy22
btw, nice work.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2006, 04:10:37 PM » |
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Yeah but socket for NAND chip is expensive I think :>
Respect TMF, respect.
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Pozdrowienia dla wszystkich polakow na XBH!
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2006, 04:12:39 PM » |
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hehe, trust me, the socket for the CPU is many times more expensive.. =)
Very nice TMF, gonna send it to someone for mounting?
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MODFREAKz
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2006, 05:01:28 PM » |
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yee, socket for CPU would be nice, but hmm a normal tsop48 nand socket costs $10 and one for CPU/GPU I think about $100-120 so its very expensive for me at the moment.  ------ for soldering I use a "smd rework station" and for desolgering I prefer my "Hot Air Gun" and for removing the soldering flux use the "nail polish" or "acetone" ------ btw: on weekend I will start with first southbridge experiments. |
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2006, 05:41:31 AM » |
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Meaby socket for cpu/gpu can you find on old PC motherboard?
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Pozdrowienia dla wszystkich polakow na XBH!
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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2006, 10:07:46 AM » |
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Hey man, great job... great hability and great b###lls to remove that stuff ...
Noob comment: why dont post a tutorial to do it with a 15 watt iron ?? naa just kidding.
Awesome
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2006, 01:21:57 PM » |
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Getting them of is easy
Getting them back on is the hard part
Ghost.
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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2006, 03:25:25 PM » |
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yeah I know a dude who knows how to put em back on...his name is modfreakz...oh wait - that's HIM
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TheSpecialist
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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2006, 05:35:17 PM » |
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btw: on weekend I will start with first southbridge experiments.
Cool. Would be an interesting surprise if suddenly the dvd key wouldn't match anymore, lol And what chips would you have to transplant, to get the NAND from another 360 working ? Can't wait to find out My guess is that the 360 will function normally after southbridge transplantation btw (I think the dvd key will be in the NAND and the NAND will probably be married to the CPU, but it's just a wild guess ) Anyway, good luck with your experiments ! Will be checking this thread a few times this weekend BTW, was just looking at your pics again and man ... how are u ever going to solder that gpu back on ... crazy ... Lol |
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2006, 06:48:14 PM » |
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A propos wild guesses:
I think that the flash is married to the southbridge since there are loads of actions done even before the cpu is started up; there are the following opportunites:
the box starts with transplantet SB and NAND: then the flash decryption is done totally in the southbrige (therefore the key is in the SB). Even if the box does not start up it would be very interesting to see in which point (=Adress) it stops booting. It was already mentioned that the encrypted SMC code is interchangeable between flashes.
I can participate in the costs for the sockets if you like (since we all profit on TMFs work why not participate in the cost since the sockets are VERY expansive..)
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TheSpecialist
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2006, 06:58:41 PM » |
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I can participate in the costs for the sockets if you like (since we all profit on TMFs work why not participate in the cost since the sockets are VERY expansive..)
Agreed, I'd be happy to donate something. I think it's very hard to do the experiments without sockets. If a transplanted chip works, it works, but if not ... then you'll won't know for sure whether it's a soldering problem or a 'marriage' problem. And if you have a socket installed, it's just a matter of swapping chips Besides, it's much easier to test more combinations of transplanted chips, with sockets installed. |
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carranzafp
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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2006, 09:50:36 AM » |
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I agree, paypal donations works on EU, right?
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